The "Conversa com Bial" program showcased two stories where the transformative power of art overcame helplessness and grief: that of Adilson Dias, a former homeless man who became a theater director, and that of Carlos Eduardo Prazeres, who created a social project in the community where his father's murderer lived. Prazeres, founder and executive director of the Maré do Amanhã Orchestra, spoke about the importance of inclusion for residents of marginalized communities.